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General Category => Tamil Bible => Topic started by: udaya on May 22, 2015, 05:37:12 AM
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நோய்களை பரப்பும் ஆட்கொல்லி பாக்டீரியாக்களை , தேவனாகிய கர்த்தர் எந்த படைப்பு நாளில் படைத்தார். படைப்பின் நோக்கம் என்ன ?
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........அல்லது ..
பாக்டீரியாக்கள் மனிதனால் உருவாக்கப்பட்டவைகளா ?
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Its not created by human being
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Then by whom, may I ask ?
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Everything created by God
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Human being is creating by something
BUT GOD creating by nothing
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@: Everything created by God
OK.......but on which creation day.
Or......
Before or after man was created ?
@: Human being is creating by somethingBUT GOD creating by nothing
You say...Human being is creating by " something" ?.....not by GOD ?
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With the help of the Gods knowledge they r creating .....
What ever they create ..... By using materials
But God created out of nothing that's y He is God.
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@: With the help of the Gods knowledge they r creating .....What ever they create ..... By using materials
Do you say man created (cloning) live species , with GOD's knowledge ? If yes , then , man is going to create another man with GOD's knowledge (according to your reasoning )
@: But God created out of nothing that's y He is God.
God will educate man to create something out of nothing. (according to your reasoning )
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I believe bacteria was created after man's disobedience.
The following verse implies that.
அது உனக்கு முள்ளும் குருக்கும் முளைப்பிக்கும். வெளியின் பயிர்வகைகளைப் புசிப்பாய். ஆதியாகமம் 3 :18
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Once upon a time our god is the king of heaven and Lucifer is the great knowledge & beautiful person we already know the matter I ask the question was heaven is the most most pure place, evil cannot enterted the heaven so no one cannot thing for bads so how then Lucifer like to live for king for heaven I think Lucifer cannot proudest because Lucifer here at heaven then how why Lucifer thought proud ??? Pls say bible explanation bro& sisters
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My understanding is.....
Evil cannot enter into any place (heaven fo that matter ) unless GOD allows it. You see..GOD himself created evil (Isaiah 45:7) , and paved way for the evil to enter into heaven ( most likely).
However , it is not clear whether GOD created evil , before or after creating our world.
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தேவனுக்கு புத்தி சொல்ல தக்கதாக அவர் சிந்தையை அறிந்தன் யார்
சகோ
காற்றும் நீீறும் மற்ற எல்லா இயற்கைகளும் தேவனாலே படைக்கப்பட்டதென்பதை அறிந்திருக்கிரீர் அல்லவா
உங்கள் கருத்துப்படி மனிதன் பாவத்திலே விழுந்த பிறகு அவனை வாதிக்க மறுபடியும் நீர் முதலானதை அழிப்பதற்காக தனியே சிருஷ்டிதார் என்று சொல்லுவோமா
இல்லையே அவர் முதலில் உருவாக்கின நீரைத்தானே அனுப்பினார்
தேவன் படைத்த எல்லாமே நன்மைகாகவே
பாகடீரியாகள் நிலத்தை பன்படுத்த உதவும் சிலவைகள் நமது நன்மைகாக பயனாகின்றன
தேவன் படைத்த எல்லாவற்றையும் ஒவ்வொன்றாக தனித்தனியே வேதாகமம் சொல்லவேணும் என்கிறீரோ
கொசுவின் வகைகள் மட்டும் எத்தனை என்பதை அறிவீரோ
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கொடிய நோய்களைப் பரப்பும் பாக்டீரியாக்களைப் பற்றி விவாதித்துக்கொண்டிருக்கிறோம் என்பதை தங்களின் கவனத்திற்கு கொண்டு வருகிறேன்.
6 படைப்பின் நாட்களில் ஏதோ ஒரு நாளில் இந்த தீங்கான பாக்டீரியாக்களை படைத்தார் என்று வைத்துக்கொள்வோம் . மனிதன் , பாவம் செய்வதற்கு முன்பாகவே அவனை துன்ப்பப்படுத்த கர்த்தர் முடிவு செய்தார் , என்று ஏற்றுக்கொள்ள வேண்டியதாகிவிடுகிறது.
மாறாக , ஆதிபாவத்திற்கு தண்டனையாக படைத்தார் என்று கொண்டால் 6 நாட்களில் படைப்பு முடியவில்லை என்பது தெளிவு.
தீங்கை படைத்துவிட்டு அது " நல்லது என்று கண்டார் " என்ற கூற்று , மனிதன் மேல் எந்த தவறும் இல்லை என்பதை உறுதி செய்கிறது.
@: தேவன் படைத்த எல்லாவற்றையும் ஒவ்வொன்றாக தனித்தனியே வேதாகமம் சொல்லவேணும் என்கிறீரோ
இதுவரைக்கும் சொன்னதே போதும் போதும்......
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@: Good character SHOULD BE DEVELOPED from bad character..
Interesting observation...!!!!
Good character = HolySpirit , bad character = Evilspirit.....OK
So, according to your reasoning..
Holy Spirit should have developed from Evil Spirit !?!?!?!...........
GOD (good character)should have developed from Devil (bad character)
....is that right ?
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......contd
I am not blaspheming , I just pointing out how dangerous your theory could be....
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God having plan on everything, in you also god having plans
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Isravelai viduvirkka Egyptiyarai vathikka anuppiya noigal atharkk muunnal irunthatha?
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Praise the lord jesus.
Hi Mr.udaya your question totaly wrong bro first go and read the bible properly ! If you ask this qiestion again ! You not read the bible properly .k bro.
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Bro VijayPushkin.......
I just commented on your theory.... I am not sure about this though ....
@: I think you are deeply ingrained in your church teachings.. Think out of the that box..
God , Satan , Holy spirit , evil spirit , sin , redemption.......all are " church teachings " ! Do you suggest me to discard these things while think about " good and bad " ?
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Bro.DannyHos.....You said this....
Hi Mr.udaya your question totaly wrong bro first go and read the bible properly..
May I request you to convey " the proper method of reading bible " ?
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Bible teachings or church teachings.....
They are made up of STORIES....
woven stories,borrowed stories,may be few true stories.
Not much difference !
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@: Woh.! I could see that you're still into that story insertion thing..
When I said "insertion"...actually I meant "Insertion of Verses"..not story insertion....
BTW , do you suggest me not to talk about Insertion ?
@: None of the stories were inserted as a whole into the Bible.. They're all original happening and please take time to prove 'em all for yourself..
Prove them..? HA..HA..HA..HA......all ?....You are kidding ....right
I think about 6 lakhs people wandering in wilderness and died there, didn't leave a single bone !
@: Only slight modifications were made up by the scribes.. Modifying laws and names in the Bible.. Stories weren't inserted as a whole..
Whether the stories are inserted as a Whole or part, doesn't matter.
Trueness ,possibility, practicality in the stories , are some of the aspects does matter.
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@: There are corpses and broken chariots in the seabed of Gulf of Aquba and the present day Mt. Sinai in Sinai peninsula is a bogus and a decoy (or Satan's counterfeit) to fool the people and archaeologists..
Apologetics claiming proof of Exodus in one hand and rejecting those "proofs" by archaeologists on the other hand, happens time to time.When the "proofs" get exposed , people quickly put Satan in the mix to make things inconclusive. How convenient !!!
We need not listern to Apologetics or archaeologists to qualify the story.Basic common sense will sufficient.
Take the bible account of the story ......apply your common sense.....thats it.
(please don't tell me that the common sense is nothing but Satan's mind in disguise!)
@: The Earth had stopped spinning for few hours..
Although I don't accept all the claims made by scientific community , many scienctific theories are very much plausible....... Your above statement is UNSCIENTIFIC.
@: What I believe is Myths are actually based on the real happenings in sky and earth and the celestial bodies and other great things on Earth are deduced as gods and goddess to the convey the real Happenings to the their future generations..
That make some sense. A quick question is ....whether the incidents mentioned in Genesis 5:24 ,2 kings 2:11 ,and all the angel appearing incidents are actually such "celestial body happenings" ?
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@: I didn't expect your acceptance..
I too didn't expect my opinion will be accepted....Just my thoughts..
@: Is this what you call as celestial bodies.?
Sorry , you misunderstood my question...
Let me rephrase my question .....
Did bible writers thought the celestial happenings as acts of God ?
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மிகவும் பழைய topic என்றாலும்....இன்றைய சூழ்நிலையில் இது பொருத்தமான ஒன்று என்று கருதி இதை மீண்டும் மறுதுவக்கம் செய்கிறேன்......
கொரோனா நுண்கிருமியை படைத்தது யார் ?
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Pls see chapter genesis (1:1-5)
Where it is mentioned that darkness created by god
God separated the light from darkness in the origin.
Where all microrganisms origination revealed.
humanbody generate antibodies is god creation.
Intension of god in bacteria ,viruses are not to harm the human kind.
Dont misguide any believers that creation not completed in 6days
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Gladson Bro...you said this......."viruses are not to harm the human kind".
OK.............
Do you think corona virus was "not harmful" when GOD created it , and became "killer kind" , just because Adam sinned ?